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How to get meetings with your ICP before you build anything related to your product.

Does this sound familiar?

You finally get a stranger on a call — and the second you start explaining your product, you can feel them check out. Polite nods. “Send me some info.” You never hear from them again.

That’s not a pitch problem. It’s an approach problem. The moment you start selling, you stop learning — and they stop listening.

Ask for advice, not money — enrolling gets a 70% response rate

Enrolling replaces cold pitching with a request for perspective. It’s non-threatening, it makes the other person the expert, and — done well — the conversation naturally turns into a sales conversation, because they discover they have the problem and want your help. If you feel “allergic to sales,” this is the framework built for you.

1 interview
8%
5 interviews
35%
10 interviews
57%
15 interviews
72%
20 interviews
82%
27 interviews
90% ✓

How many conversations do you need? 27.

We call it the 27-Stranger Rule: 27 stranger interviews = 90% confidence the pattern you’re hearing is real. Your gut alone is the most biased data point you have — it’s worth 8%.

The full how-to for this box is in the free Traction Canvas toolkit.

"Ask for advice, not money. Learn before you earn."

3 ways founders blow this box

Skip
You assume you already know what the market wants and skip the discovery conversations.
Shortcut
You interview friends and family, whose "it's great" gives false confidence instead of truth.
Stumble
You pitch instead of asking for advice — or stop after a handful of chats — so the real pattern never surfaces.

Get Box 5 working for you

→ Get the free toolkit — the fillable canvas, session slides, and a one-hour session recording.

→ Work through it with us — Brandy and Craig run the Traction Canvas live with founder cohorts and accelerators, and complete it 1:1 with funded teams.

→ Next: Box 6 — Trigger Events — reach decision-makers in the 2–3 week window when they’re 5× more likely to buy.

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